horse steroids... 

Hmmm how wrong can you be, how further from the truth could you be. It is actually an
anesthetic. check out http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml geeze Google searches
are so hard and this was the first cab of the ranks, or a search of this board will give
you
http://www.spraci.net/cgi-bin/boards.cgi?area=brisbane&task=show&id=40506&view=date&bnarea=x0brisbane&size=3
in both those links you will find some good information as apposed to the "horse" shit you
spreading. 

Hooray for custa!  what would you do if spraci wasnt around ?  You and your gfriend 
chemist should start your own info line!  

I prefer to leave the smart arse comments out when i post messages,  but in your case 
your   musical taste is far from acceptable, you should progress in your musical
interests and leave the 90's behind. 

kapoof! 

oh poor "phar lap" doesn't know what they talking about and then has to try to use a sad
arguement (my taste in music) as a diversionary tactic so people will not think they are
so stupid and naive. Maybe the ol' horse needs a little ketamine to get them through.
Thats ya horse product there buddy. 

Only thing worse than no information is misinformation which is what you originally gave.
Grow up, playing with GHB is playing with people lives. I have known of people that  have
been given it and ended up in hospital. Steroids don't do that. Take it on the chin that
your information was wrong and maybe take a little bit of knowledge away from it. 

"I have known of people that have been given it and ended up in hospital"

On the weekend I was involved in a situation where a person took a swig from a
waterbottle cause was thirsty - they were only drinking alcohol. The waterbottle had
concentrated GHB in it. A full dose approx 3.5ml (4ml possible OD) - he had a dose far
exceding that. The person stopped breathing and had to be resussitated in the back seat
of the car enroute to hospital. 

They survived.

This is serious shit. If you decide to put G in a water bottle, and leave it unattended,
you may be involved in someones death (they call this manslaughter). 

Think about this.

In this case, playing with GHB is playing with OTHER peoples lives.
  

fark! T'Z , im thankful the person who took a "swig" was lucky... not everyone is, keep
that in mind... as Z says, dont leave spiked shite unnattended or you will wear it. even
better dont have spiked shite at ALL and save yourself the trouble. 

IMHO GBH is avoid material, but if you decide it is for you i won't stop you, only point
you to erowid and LOTS of research first. if you seriously think you know your shit its
on your own head... 
my 2 cents plus GST, after 10 posts you get all the .2 cents added up....
Cheers 

On easter sunday between the hours of 12:30pm-1:30pm my friend and I were spiked. I don't
remember a salty taste to any of our drinks. But I do recall the whole evening and it had
to have happened at Shooters in Canberra. We went from Shooters to In Blue then to
insomnia where the effects took hold. Around an hour it took for the drugs to take
effect. We were dry reaching the whole 2hrs we were in the same cubicle. You know when
are drunk as you always have fluid and chunks to throw up, for us it was nothing but
bile, we knew something wasn't right. We didn't end up in hospital, though very close. we
slept for 6hrs and couldn't walk or focas the next day - today. This is a very serious
dangerous drug as people are using it to be a rape drug. Mixing with alcohol is bad, we
had doubles the whole night, how many of them were spiked??? please girls cover your
drinks when not sipping!!! I thought I was always cautous and that it would never happen
to me.....but it did and it could have ended my life along with my friends. If the dose
was high who knows where we would be today. WATCH YOUR DRINKS!! NEVER LEAVE THEM ALONE  

M, that is very nasty, do spread the word! - all the best!

Just do a search on the term, or I'm sure soon...someone will explain the history of it
to you. 

Oi! Michael, I just replied to this post on "GBH" and now it reads that I wrote the
SUBJECT, wtf???


GHOST IN THE SHELL.......??? 

Have a look at http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml  

Crakarman you krak me up! :P Birthday tunez soon! 

why dosnt some one kick the fuk out of craka? 

There are some morons on this board hey!

GHB is a pretty dangerous drug, be very careful if using it... mixed with alchohol this
can be *very* dangerous and can lead to death!!
Make sure you know what you're doing before you play with any drugs out there...
knowledge is power!

GHB has been well known to be a date rape drug and large quantities can lead to a deep
sleep state.. 

erowid.org is probably a good place to start. Thanks to whoever put that link up and sod
off to whoever you are that is so childish that think that calling people names on this
board is going to achieve anything useful.. it's nice to have a bit of faith in humanity
occasionally, but people like you.. sometimes I don't know. And there are many like
people mentioned. :(

PEACE,
EG
 

fair enough i apologise but i wont apologise about   crakas muiscal taste

out of 'ere 

YEAH!!!  "why doesn't someone kick the f#k outa me"?  

Why don't you do it, you horse f#king tool?????

Did you get abused sexually by a big horny horse when you were a kid or
something????................me thinks so!!!!!

A conversation with you you is like "flogging a dead horse"!!! pun intended. phar lap 

Yes i did get abused sexually you should'nt make a joke out of something that serious! 

Yeah well, i just did!  If you throw sh#t, most of the time it comes back in varying
quantities.....k??? 

That is close to one of the lowest things someone could ever say to another human being.
 
Angus
   
     





                                      
(ATT Amber, this is the chat board I was telling you about, honey,   
can't wait till you get back, I love you, Angus) 

Nice 1 Craka
thumbs down 

agreed :  abusive people like you crackarman need help. 

sorry, not the 'abuse' part of the argument you had with 'Pharlap', I was refering to
another earlier part of your argument, sorry, hope your BDAY went well, cya. 

GHB: Gamma Hydroxy Butyrate (salty tasting - more or less depending on the concentration. 
Also known as Frank or fantasy)

1,4b: 1,4 Butanediol. (chemically tasting, close relation of GHB, similar effects to GHB,
less euphoric, more "drunk" feeling (that is open to personal opinion too)

I'm not going to go right into it,  but what pisses me off are people that blame the DRUG
for other peoples' stupidity and/or irresponsibility.  It's horrible when someone od's on
GHB, just like it's horroible when someone o'd's on alchohol, heroin, amphetamine,
ketamine, etc etc...in the case of the chap above, i don't know about anyone else, but in
this day and age, i certainly wouldn't pick up any old water bottle and blindly swig out
of it, for the exact same reason as above...you JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN IT!!!! As for
the F**kface who left it laying around, uncoloured, unmarked....well, he's just looking
for trouble.

I've known people to pass out on this drug, but i've also known many people who say that
GHB is their drug of choice, over all others...due to the fact that IF USED RESPONSIBLY,
there is no comedown, it lasts 2 hours, and if dosed at the correct level, is so very
much fun.  

Alot of the people that bag GHB i'm sure are doing that while necking their 12 pill of
the evening...and to me, there is NOTHING uglier than someone who has had too many
pills...ewwwwww

It all comes down to:

*self education: think for yourself, question authority and media, RESEARCH what you put
into your bodies!
*self discipline: Know when to say enough is enough, become aware of the messages your
body is sending to you
*Less Hyporcrisy: If you're going to bag one particular drug, then bag them all...REALLY,
they are all as bad as eachother in their own ways, but not AS bad if used RESPONSIBLY AND
IN MODERATION.

Also, if you want to educate yourself further than: man, that's horse tranquiliser
(which, as Custa pointed out, is Ketamine...which by the way is also used as a
anaesthetic for humans, if they suffer an alergy to the other anaesthetics...) then i
suggest you click on the links that Custa and others listed as well as:

www.lycaeum.org
www.bluelight.nu

I'd advise that if you join Bluelight (an online community for the sharing of information
regarding recreational drug use), don't go on sprouting shit like "horse tranquiliser",
otherwise you will be shot down in flames....if you go in with an attitude of "i want to
learn and become educated" then there is a world of info on there and beyond...Look for
it.

 

Damn! you guys get offended real easy.....it just makes it so much more fun to keep doing
so.

It just goes to show...

"winning an arguement on the internet is like winning ten bucks on the
lotto....................NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!
and you still look like a loser.


No regrets here!!!hippies!! 

I think we know who the looser is craka? 

Crakaman, what is it with you? Can't you see that this is not a fucking argument and
actually doesn't have a winner?

For your information, some of us have taken it upon us to provide helpful information to
other people, because some people have respect and aren't so up their own fucking arses
that they can't tell the difference between an argument and information!!

Hopefully one day you will find a positive way to use the internet, instead of just
bagging people out randomly. Go back to playschool,
or......... 

grow up!!! 

Man, people need to be informed about "lethal" drugs, and we need the right information
out there.

GHB, or also called GBH (grieveous bodily harm) affectionately, is a euphoria causing
designer drug of recent days, that had seen at least 6 deathes in London alone in the
late 90s.

If it's just an anaethsetic, why can't they all just settle for smack??
Heroin in it's purer form, is a drug with least side effect. Other than it's high
addictivity thought to be of equal calibre with Nicotine.
Other good "euphoria" causing stuff are opioids. the synthetics.

All "dangerous" drugs should be off the streets. and all responsible for unresponsible
distribution should be put to death. 

Hooray for missinformationsucks!!!

I am sick of all the 'ghb' bashing. It is born out of ignorance and stupidity.
In my opinion it is one of the least hermfull and side effect free rec drugs that you
will find IF USED CORRECTLY!

The thing is that iI am not sure where all these people are getting it cus i cant find
any!! 
I have heard so many people so the most stupid shit about 'ghb' actually you probably
wont find ghb in australia most likley 1,4 butandiol which is not as clean or good as
ghb. 

Being the Twhizzzzer I don't have any taste for GHB or it's various substitutes and
versions. I won't comment and things I don't know about, and GHB is one of them. It
doesn't appeal to me but each to their own.

I agree with those that have mentioned that really it all boils down to
misinterpretation, misinformation and misunderstanding.

I can understand its appeal to various people and I am sure using it in a recreational
situation is no different from using any other chemical based mind altering substance.

Likewise, the onus would be placed on the user to research the substance they are
using/abusing. Afterall, as adults the decisions made are based on intelligent
deduction.

Those that claim not, well, there is only a very fine line between ignorance and
stupidity.

Mind you, in the 1980's GHB was sold freely on American Television in
paid-for-advertisements similar to our dem-tel etc. One such product was marketted as
Gamma-B. Even MDMA was sold freely on such television programs until it was scheduled. In
those days "ecstacy" was originally coined EMPATHY, however, a marketting decision
patented the "ecstacy" simply because it would be more highly sorted after with such a
name.

One would therefore gather that even GHB, considered one of the more "evil" substances
floating around, would contradict its own fear generation... step back 20 years.. and
have a look at this :) 

It doesn't really appeal to me either.
What ever "it" is that you use, you just have to know enough about it to keep yourself
out of trouble. otherwise, don't touch it.

And for those who claim to know what you are getting, are you cooking it yourself? then
how the hell do you know?