Suicide girls is just porn without the thrusting and the moaning. Why do you feel like
this is entertaining? 

Its much more fun to guess what the alternative girl on the train is wearing underneath
her ripped jeans and wife beater. IT REALLY IS.

There is nothing "girl power" or feminist about stripping your clothes off on the
internet. I puke at the idea of young girls dreaming about being on that site. I hate how
manipulative it is. Its sending out the image 'you have to look like this to be a hot pin
up alternative model'

What a load of fish heads.

Get stuffed american born porn we don't want you here.

They get paid. They also get publicity. No one forces them. If you want to make money you
can go sit on a check-out at a supermarket. They choose not to. Good for them.

Not that i'm willing to pay membership to anything on the web. That's just a dumb risk. 

a know a few SG's ... its just quick cash for them :/ 

  
a know a few SG's ... its just quick cash for them :/
 

Do they honestly think, that they'd want pictures of themselves naked 30 years from now
on the web, on a PORN site.

quick cash can be made in many ways, but I don't just think it's degrading, I think
that's a DODGY and VILE site. Not only is management fucked up, but their values and
buisness ethic is less than desirable.

Not that i totally disagree, i guess (as usual) i'm just playing devils advocate for the
sake of getting a half-decent discussion started.

Ok.

It's hardly rape or paedophilia now is it? They're all the right age, they all get paid,
no-one forces them, heck, a girl i know that does it gets a kick out of it. And it isn't
exactly the most scary, disgusting, hardcoriest site on the web... I dunno, maybe i'm
just desensitised horribly but i find it hard to get uppity over a bunch of ugly girls
showing thier boobies online. 

  
Not that i totally disagree, i guess (as usual) i'm just
playing devils advocate for the sake of getting a half-decent discussion started.

Ok.

It's hardly rape or paedophilia now is it? They're all the right age, they all get paid,
no-one forces them, heck, a girl i know that does it gets a kick out of it. And it isn't
exactly the most scary, disgusting, hardcoriest site on the web... I dunno, maybe i'm
just desensitised horribly but i find it hard to get uppity over a bunch of ugly girls
showing thier boobies online.  


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No it isn't rape or pedephilia the girls do it "for themselves" but if you've seen the
tabloids of that site you might be a bit more concerned. 

And why are all these girls flocking to strip naked on the internet? You've just got to
ask yourself that.

I didn't realise women moral was so low.

I'd imagine they'd do it for the obvious reasons other than money: attention. I know
people like this. Believe me it ain't that unusual. But seriously, as long as they aren't
hurting you and they aren't being hurt and they're not messing up little kids (cos it's a
pay-to-view site), what's the biggie?

Now don't misinterpret me - i fully understand what you're saying, but you have to admit
there is at least some logic to the argument!! 

Yeah! Exactly! Attention.

But why in cyber space? I mean yes of course these women especially, in particular love
attention but why can't they just wear a shirt stating

:- I have tattoos and bright coloured hair and I like to get naked - please love me?

I mean.. 

Do they really think they'll gain popularity by stripping on the internet? Yeah by LOTS
OF WEIRDOS!! who wack off to their bodies. 

Is it just the flavour of millenium? Flesh for show! $6 a month! 

It is incredibly popular. I can see why they're being sucked into posing. They're wanting
confirmation that they're better than pigs ase. And they get it. 

But moths to a flame isn't just an observation, it's a fact... 

I've heard about stories of models being extremely popular online and I know of a few,
but I also know that "Suicide Girls" Screwed them around and replaced them with 1000
models. 1 a day!

For someone who is wanting confirmation of their beauty Suicide Girls and all the others
are a trap.  They guide you along to pose and accept their cash and your fame. You fuck
with them though, and you are history on their site, and others as well. 

http://www.gloomdolls.com - I think - Shares accounts of these girls and the issues
surrounding them and the softcore porn site.





  

 I cant belive i wasted my time checking that site out 

 *shudders and leaves* 

  
I cant belive i wasted my time checking that site out 

 *shudders and leaves*  

This is actually one of the better argumentive discussions I've had on this site.

I'm glad you're leaving if you believe that this is annoying. Fuck off already.

Good points, but:

Just because they're doing this kind of work doesn't mean they're automatically being
sucked in by the big scary underworld. I mean, ok, it's softcore porn fair enough but you
do generalise quite a bit about the membership. I remeber reading an article somewhere (I
think it was at Ozfest a few years ago) with a lot of different rock-scene celebs
endorsing the site by explaining that they were members too. And there were a lot of
girls as well - members that didn't actually pose for photos but showed up for the
community aspects.

Now i just KNOW you're sneering at the screen right now but hear me out. Ok, the site is
based around fetish modelling but it (aparently) has quite a community surrounding it.
Now, neither I nor you (i assume?) are members, so neither of can really comment with any
degree of accuracy until we've seen it from the inside. Everything we can say is based on
advertising, conjecture, personal opinion or the front page.

I suppose what i keep thinking is "well at least it isn't snuff" or anything really sick
like that.

I dunno, maybe my opinion is influenced by my gender. 

  
Good points, but:

Now i just KNOW you're sneering at the screen right now but hear me out. 
 

Well yesums, I actually was.

Yeah okay, I'm not a member of the pornsite and I don't understand clearly why these
women are baring their bodies but hey, I did my research.

I thought it could be a fun thing to do  myself once upon a
shock parade, and I trolled their site and others looking for any info I could get my
paws on. I found it, it wasn't hard.

The site could be lying, or the ex models could be trying to start trouble, but I
actually believe the former, especially after seeing the gloom dolls site. 

At that point I chose not to do it. I wanted to do it for myself, but I didn't, and yeah
I am happy that I didn't..

I just don't like the pycological imprint it leaves on past models..

Which is a perfectly reasonable point of view. Incidentally, let me turn this around for
the moment: why did you want to do it in the first place? Don't answer if it makes you
uncomfortable, but i'm genuinely curious. It's not something i would ever do myself, even
if hordes of screaming fans begged me to, but then the idea of showing any part of my own
body other than arms and face makes my very very very uncomfortable indeed. 

  
Which is a perfectly reasonable point of view.
Incidentally, let me turn this around for the moment: why did you want to do it in the
first place? Don't answer if it makes you uncomfortable, but i'm genuinely curious. It's
not something i would ever do myself, even if hordes of screaming fans begged me to, but
then the idea of showing any part of my own body other than arms and face makes my very
very very uncomfortable indeed.  

Shock value for when my brothers friends/ any family find it.

Nah, not really..

I guess I was just as naive as the girls who go ahead with it, I was looking to get
personal achievement and shock value. 

I think the idea was more fun to think about then the action of doing it. Very powerful
stance taking your clothes off and letting the world look at your lady bits.

Haha.

bugger I dunno where my post went. I just woke up.

gee this threads been a lil busy in the time of space where i was relocating o.O' 

I'd get my kit off for money. And I don't think I'd be real bothered 20/30 years down the
track, maybe just sad that I was no longer as young and good looking :-P I mean who
wouldn't want to be paid for being hot?

I agree that it is porn, you have to admit its a little more tasteful than most though.
And personally I wish I'd thought of the idea because how many 'alt' people have searched
for porn at one point in their life and been dissappointed and disgusted by all the
silicon and bimbo's etc etc.

Also, exploring your sexuality is a natural part of being human. Hell, 25 years down the
track if I have kids, I'd be happier having them look at SG than any other porn around.
And the girls on SG could be just exploring their sexuality as well. Or they could like
the attention. Hell I've met some people who were strippers who love their job (no not at
a strip club).

These girls are adults, they can make their own decisions, and if the end up making a
decision they regret, then at least they've learnt a life lesson.

Man I'm ranting, I guess I just haven't been on any forums in so long.

Amaranth and Glim both make good points.. 
I just think that they should be able to find out what these people are like before they
ever go near them, so to be better able to decide if they real want to get mixed up in
it..
I figure then there'd be a far sight less exploited ones..
Me personaly i'd never even give it thought let alone do it..

But then each to thier own..